Pinkston

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lpdbsbl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the difference between this kid and the others that Norton have accepted and allowed to play through the boys home in Norton that is shut down? Those boys had been in trouble, tossed from home to home and finally, through the courts, appointed to the Victory Boys Home. Those children, much like Mr. Pinkston had been into some trouble, but many of them participated in football at Burton whether they were good or not. No one ever questioned Jimbo for taking those young men into his program and trying to help them become better students and men! I attend church with one of the house parents that used to work there and he sung not only the praises of Jimbo, but Mr. Scott Keith and the entire Burton faculty for their abilities to handle these children. I think we all must remember that the men and women in our educational systems SHOULD be in their positions due to their love of shaping the lives of children and educating them to become productive members of our society. Why should such educators (some of which are coaches) turn their backs on kids, espically those that need help the most? </div></div>

Excellent, Excellent post, well said.

The real question is, does Burton abide by the "Wise County Code of Conduct Policy" or have one of thier own? If any player violates certian sections of the WCCC he / she can be dismissed for periods up to one year. The VHSL rule also states "transfer of custody does not assure eligibilty. The VHSL discourages transfers or recruiting purely for athletic purposes.

I would assume Norton has their own code of conduct since it is not part of the WCSB, and has their own policies.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sat_morning_QB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From the understanding in talking to Mr Pinkston his Uncle and cousins during and after the game here is what's going on. Yes he lived with his Grandmother in BSG for many years and His Mother never gave up her Parental rights, just let them live with her mother in BSG while she lives in Norton. Whatever happened happened in Big Stone Gap that's where that stays.
He, his Mother and family came to a family understanding in that his Mother is giving up her parental right's to her Brother who has already petitioned the court's for legal guardianship of Mr. Pinkston and this was when he moved to Norton. This would be standard per the courts as his Uncle would be his court appointed Guardian and he has to change residences from one town to another to live with his court appointed Guardian because he is a minor, which makes him eligible in guidlines set forth in prior VHSL rulings in their handbook and the past. </div></div>

YOu are right, I already said that.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"But, considering he has lived with his grandmother for years and now decides to go live with his mother they do have a fight against the VHSL ruling because that is his legal guardian. In doing that that would not make the other brother not able to play since he has been established since the 9th grade."

Only if grandmaw moves, same reason you can't move to JIB without sitting out and play. The way it used to worded, whoever the kid lived with had to move. </div></div>

I disagree, there is a loophole there. His mother is the legal guardian, therfor he has moved. I seriously believe the VHSL will not touch this, mark my words.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: burton2019</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This thread needs a xanax bar. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

Fixed

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: centennialdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This has got to be the most stupid thread of the year on this board. Sure, its a hot topic, but it is also a kid you all are talking about. </div></div>

Why is is stupid? For the most part posters are not attacking the student, they are just concerned about the rules and if he is able to play. It is your opinion that it is stupid and you have made that known. The story goes like this, Coach R. called the DB coach and filled him in and probably added a lot more to the story. Coach R. has done the same thing with Jimbo, not that Jimbop did not already know. If Jimbo decides to give him a second chance then I support it because Jimbo is a stand-up guy.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PassMan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I said to start with, he's not going to make a difference for JIB to beat Clintwood or PV this year.</div></div>

Hey Lung, do you pick PV over Burton this year? I may have just misunderstood what you said but it seems like that's what you were implying with that quote. (If it's not, my mistake.)

I know that only one 'true' game has been played at this point, but it just seems like Burton could be the stronger team this season. I don't see PV winning it this year, but I could be wrong. I think that when I watch PV take on Lebanon this Friday I'll be able to better judge the teams (even if I haven't really seen Burton). </div></div>

Not what I'm saying. Don't know who I pick to be honest. It's too early. I'm just saying he's not a difference maker that's going to make an 0-10 team a 10-0 team. I'm just saying Burton's results would be more or less the same against PV or CW or Appy or Pound or Wise with or without the kid.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diets17</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This kid needs something to be a part of right now. The more time he has to do nothing, the more he will get deeper into whatever problem it is that he may have. I'd say it's a pretty good bet that he isn't getting the guidance he needs at home.

Just giving an example, maybe things have changed more than I thought in the past 10 years or so. Though when I was in high school it seemed like far more than half of the kids who didn't play sports were developing bad habits in their free time. That was few and far between with the kids who actually played. Might have something to do about being a part of something, being on a team... maybe having people around you who cares about you. Maybe those other young men who have been there playing will set an example, offer their friendship. I'd say it's safe to say there aren't many saints in the halls of the high schools anywhere you will go. Kids and young adults do stupid things, some learn from their mistakes, other repeat them throughout their lives. There has obviously been something that's been missing from this kids life. Some sort of guidance, and authority. He's obviously not gonna get that by sitting at house, because if he was going to we wouldn't be talking about this. I'd say theres a pretty good chance he's going to be surrounding himself with good people within that football program.

So let the kid play, how can a bunch of people who don't know the whole story know what's best for this kid. They don't, and the bottom line is most here has another agenda. Let's think about the kid before we think about W's and L's of the team you root for. </div></div>

I know he was getting the guidance he needed, he just rejected it, like i said before without going into detail he has just flipped out in certain areas.I do know the whole story, because I have talked to him many times about it.I do agree though that he deserves one more chance at this and he does need this right now in his life.

I see what you're saying now . . and I agree. I don't think he'd make a huge difference. He's pretty talented, that's for sure, but I think that Burton already has the right mix of speed/power with their starting 'backs. I wonder if he'll ever start this season? Did he play any during the Rye Cove game last Friday?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ironlung</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So let the kid play, how can a bunch of people who don't know the whole story know what's best for this kid. They don't, and the bottom line is most here has another agenda. Let's think about the kid before we think about W's and L's of the team you root for.
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I don't see him being the deciding factor in any game that JIB plays this year. I could care less if the kid plays or not, I'm just glad I haven't read the first couple hundred posts on this subject. The sooner this dies, the better. </div></div>

Dude, this is a forum and people talk about different things. I have a hard time with a handful of people downsizing threads just because they did not make them or do not like them. I say that with all the respect in the world for you as a poster and you are entitled to your opinion just like anyone else, so do not take offense to it.

Dude, I take no offense. I don't care if it lives or dies. I'm just not interested in reading it, so I haven't. The sooner it dies, the sooner I don't have to click on it to make it become "un-yellow". I say this with no respect in the world for you as a poster, because I don't know you from Aunt Bea. You're entitled to your opinion just like anyone else, so if you take offense to this, so be it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ironlung</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude, I take no offense. I don't care if it lives or dies. I'm just not interested in reading it, so I haven't. The sooner it dies, the sooner I don't have to click on it to make it become "un-yellow". I say this with no respect in the world for you as a poster, because I don't know you from Aunt Bea. You're entitled to your opinion just like anyone else, so if you take offense to this, so be it. </div></div>

Okay dude, that is not a good attitude in my opinion that you are displaying. I do not know you either, but I do not wish to offend you. YOu seem easily offended?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ironlung</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude, I take no offense.</div></div>

Seemed pretty fine with me. I wouldnt piss him off. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

This player won't make or break the raiders. What did he do of significance at PV?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: burton2019</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seemed pretty fine with me. I wouldnt piss him off. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

What seemed pretty fine? I do not wish to piss anyone off, but I need you to explain what you are trying to convey to me?

I think its because you said you said it with no respect to him, mighta left of the -dis. haha

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blue52</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think its because you said you said it with no respect to him, mighta left of the -dis. haha </div></div>

Dude, not really worried about him.

I didn't leave anything off. I don't know "dude" from Aunt Bea like I said. I don't respect people that I don't know, can't visually see, or have no idea what or who they are. I have no problem with "dude". I just found the post a little condescending, so I gave it back. I can respect you, because I know you and you're a good kid. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gym Monster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blue52</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think its because you said you said it with no respect to him, mighta left of the -dis. haha </div></div>

Dude, not really worried about him. </div></div>

That's a mantra repeated on here many times before.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: burton2019</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seemed pretty fine with me. I wouldnt piss him off. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

...and now the pm's have started. "Why are you talking smack? YOu trying to start trouble. Why you got to be a smart elic? " It's following the usual trend. http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/smilies/roll.gif

what's a smart elic? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

I don't know what got him started. I told him I didn't have a problem with him. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif[/img]

http://mysite.verizon.net/res03sj8/s...opcorn_fib.jpg

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ironlung</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know what got him started. I told him I didn't have a problem with him. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif[/img]</div></div>


I guess he wants to be humiliated.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ironlung</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: burton2019</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seemed pretty fine with me. I wouldnt piss him off. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

...and now the pm's have started. "Why are you talking smack? YOu trying to start trouble. Why you got to be a smart elic? " It's following the usual trend. http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/smilies/roll.gif </div></div>

Okay, you are like a little kid, I tried to be grown up and talk this out and you go and do that. THat is fine I will try and avoid you because you only start trouble.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: burton2019</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ironlung</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know what got him started. I told him I didn't have a problem with him. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif[/img]</div></div>


I guess he wants to be humiliated. </div></div>

YOu his little speaker or something?

Oh, I didnt even read it...I just check your posts to see if youve said anything thatll crack me up. I gotta feeling its coming here soon.

More like a silent witness to past events..lol

" I was getting ready to tel lyou who I was, and that would shut you up."

You seem pretty worried about it to me.

I still don't understand what his deal is. I told him I didn't have a problem with him, and now it's turned into this.

Maybe we need an irate poster hall of fame....this stuff never gets old tho.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blue52</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You seem pretty worried about it to me. </div></div>

Na, not really I just get worked up when troublemakers enter the scene.

How exactly has he been a trouble maker?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe we need an irate poster hall of fame....this stuff never gets old tho. </div></div>

i do not think so, I am not angry at all. I am just calling you on you BS.

I'm still trying to figure that one out myself. Passman and I have had some flare-ups over the years so he's the last one who's going to come to my defense if I'm in the wrong.

Dude, you have 88 posts on here...you really have no reason to be worked up. Lungs been on here forever and IMO one of the more reliable posters on the forum. You don't have to agree with everything anyone says on here...just respect that folks won't always agree with you either..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude, you have 88 posts on here...you really have no reason to be worked up. Lungs been on here forever and IMO one of the more reliable posters on the forum. You don't have to agree with everything anyone says on here...just respect that folks won't always agree with you either.. </div></div>

I agree with your assesment. At the same time he is disrespectful, I can get past that, but i pm'ed him in confidence and he posted it in this thread.