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    Re: Lebanon@Union

    At times Tom tinkered with other formations, sometimes quite a bit. One year they ran a lot of stuff out of a sort of power I set with a pair of 300+ pound twins in the backfield. It was not designed to spread anybody out though

    Travis is a very young and very inexperienced coach. It's my feeling that he is also going to be a very good coach. Nobody needs to be too critical of him, he is learning on the job I'm sure. IMO he has made some mistakes but not nearly as many as you would expect a coach that young and that inexperienced to make. He has also done some things very, very well and I think given time he will establish himself as a top tier high school coach.
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    Re: Lebanon@Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Gotch View Post
    At times Tom tinkered with other formations, sometimes quite a bit. One year they ran a lot of stuff out of a sort of power I set with a pair of 300+ pound twins in the backfield. It was not designed to spread anybody out though

    Travis is a very young and very inexperienced coach. It's my feeling that he is also going to be a very good coach. Nobody needs to be too critical of him, he is learning on the job I'm sure. IMO he has made some mistakes but not nearly as many as you would expect a coach that young and that inexperienced to make. He has also done some things very, very well and I think given time he will establish himself as a top tier high school coach.
    I agree with this. Let's be honest, he has made quite a few mistakes this year. The time management issues HAVE to be addressed and fixed going forward and the lack of offensive diversity will kill them against better teams. But Turner is a very young guy taking over the most storied program this side of Hampton after all this consolidation mess, all at his FIRST head coaching job.

    My biggest complaint (other than clock management) has been the offensive sets and playcalling. He is not taking advantage of all his players' strengths. The T is GREAT for Barker, it fits his style. But Davis is a quicker, more athletic back with more speed. Run some I or single back, run some sweeps and tosses, let Davis get outside and use his athletic ability.
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    Re: Lebanon@Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Gotch View Post
    At times Tom tinkered with other formations, sometimes quite a bit. One year they ran a lot of stuff out of a sort of power I set with a pair of 300+ pound twins in the backfield. It was not designed to spread anybody out though
    That was the Meyers twins in 94. He'd hand them the ball and it was impossible to stop them. When it was the Travis's though, it was almost always the T.
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    Re: Lebanon@Union

    Turner was qb in 94. Clark played some corner and halfback that year. The "I" I can recall was two power backs , one lined up a step closer to the LOS than the fullback. In the time I watched Tom coach, there was very few I plays, most of them in the last year or two. I really don't see what the gripe is, when Appy had the kids to run it, Tom ran a spread or shotgun several times a game. The trick is , most people don't see enough of practice to have an idea of what can be run. The last state game, I heard people talking about what they would have done to stop that offense, Tom was possibly the best coach around and if Appy had the kids to run the 3-4 and the dime and the 10 other schemes named, he would have gone to it.The T gets you to the line quicker and you don't have to hold a block as long, it's balanced -you don't have a weak and strong side. Going away from getting across the LOS and hitting someone is what has disappointed me the most in PV and Appy the last couple of years.
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    Re: Lebanon@Union

    Quote Originally Posted by simple man View Post
    Turner was qb in 94. Clark played some corner and halfback that year. The "I" I can recall was two power backs , one lined up a step closer to the LOS than the fullback. In the time I watched Tom coach, there was very few I plays, most of them in the last year or two. I really don't see what the gripe is, when Appy had the kids to run it, Tom ran a spread or shotgun several times a game. The trick is , most people don't see enough of practice to have an idea of what can be run. The last state game, I heard people talking about what they would have done to stop that offense, Tom was possibly the best coach around and if Appy had the kids to run the 3-4 and the dime and the 10 other schemes named, he would have gone to it.The T gets you to the line quicker and you don't have to hold a block as long, it's balanced -you don't have a weak and strong side. Going away from getting across the LOS and hitting someone is what has disappointed me the most in PV and Appy the last couple of years.
    Was that there "Dog Bone" Look I was thinking that was more a wishbone look with one of the half backs really being a extra lineman right behind the guard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Counts View Post
    Was that there "Dog Bone" Look I was thinking that was more a wishbone look with one of the half backs really being a extra lineman right behind the guard.
    EXCATLY! it wasnt that jumbo set T formation. They rran wishbone with the Myers Twins and some Power I with them and a young Travis Clark.

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    Re: Lebanon@Union

    94 Appy was without the full services of the starting fullback from middle of the season till the last half of the PV game. Hyper extended knee slowed him down.
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    Re: Lebanon@Union

    Quote Originally Posted by simple man View Post
    94 Appy was without the full services of the starting fullback from middle of the season till the last half of the PV game. Hyper extended knee slowed him down.

    Your talkin about an Appy fullback how much slower could he get???
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    Re: Lebanon@Union

    Quote Originally Posted by simple man View Post
    94 Appy was without the full services of the starting fullback from middle of the season till the last half of the PV game. Hyper extended knee slowed him down.
    Was that Dub Varner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnIoNfAn View Post
    EXCATLY! it wasnt that jumbo set T formation. They rran wishbone with the Myers Twins and some Power I with them and a young Travis Clark.
    I dont believe Travis saw much playing time as a freshman. I am thinking that backfield contained Larry Huff instead as Turner took over as QB his freshman year with Huff moving to HB his SR year from QB. They also had Sam Sellars I think at time.
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