EXECUTION!!!!!!

And there in lies the problem.
Our troops can't do that. In Iraq as in Vietnam.
How do you fight a war you are limited in how you can attack and you can't whip [censored] and take names.
And a Civil War among the people as in Vietnam and now in Iraq
Esp. when your the outsiders.
I guess it's changing hearts and minds. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Oh and we were only to be in Vietnam for two or three years at the start.
One was to whip a third world army, with an army we established in the South, and the other was to put our own officials into office, in a country we would help control.

[imported_juggernaut28]

As far as christians celebrating the death of Sadaam, why do you pity Sadaam? I would say that for many years christians are one of the few who have probably prayed for Sadaam. The American Govt. did NOT hand down execution on Sadaam, his own Govt. did that. Also all of you who have pity on anyone celebrating Sadaam's death, would you feel this way if it were your family he tortured, had raped, beat and in most horrible way killed right in front of your eyes? He had young girls as young as 12 raped by many men and made the family watch. I think many murders who have not done as much as Sadaam deserved death of any kind. Sadaam, no I don't feel sorry for him at all, cause on earth he had plenty of nights to repent in and change, while his victims died more horrible than he did. Can you imagine all the nights the families of these victims sat up crying and grieving over their loved ones?
To the comment two wrongs don't make a right, that is true. But also, the law of the land permits this execution. What Sadaam did was not governed by the law, but by his own satisfaction. A cruel man died today.

I will not shed one tear over his death. How can any american feel pity for Sadaam after listening to him for so many months call our soldiers infadels and call death upon each one of them, that his GOD wanted all AMERICANS dead. You are an american, how did you feel when Sadaam and the Iraq's celebrated when some of our soldiers heads hung on a pole in their own streets in the early days of the war.

Im not picking at you, but you have argued that saying foul language is not christ like, then you say that you cannot forgive him for what he has said about Americans.

Anyone wanna take bets on which news channel shows Saddams execution? I think its gonna be on a 24 loop on FOX News

[imported_juggernaut28]

No I did not say I don't forgive him. I am not a family member of one he killed. Had he done that, and he asked for my forgiveness then yes by the law of Christ I have to forgive to be forgiven. But I have done no wrong by saying that according to Sadaams own Govt.s law he was to be put to death for his crimes. What point are you trying to make? Forgive Sadaam, what have I to forgive him for?

[imported_juggernaut28]

Do I hurt over the family members who suffered by Sadaam's crimes, yes I do. But at the same time I realize that Sadaam's own family is hurting right now, cause they loved Sadaam as much as I or anyone else loves theirs. So I feel for both. But I stand by the decision the Iraq Govt. made. On earth we have a justice system, after death we have a Heavenly judge. Why should Sadaam have the power to kill men,women,children, but he himself should not be put to death for his crimes? What punishment do you think he should have got?

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i dont think anyone on this forum (or many americans, maybe a handful) had family that Saddam tortured...so why exactly should those who consider themselves Christians celebrate the death of this man? to justify celebration by pointing to the actions of MUSLIM family members is rather pointless and doesnt hold water in any argument

[imported_juggernaut28]

I never said I am celebrating his death. I said that I will not shed a tear over his death. Why should I cry or grieve over his death? Are you mourning tonight over his death? Why is it wrong if a christian believes that the death of Sadaam is right? That is what his own Govt. and ours follow as punishment for certain crimes. I believe in the death penalty and the right punishment was carried out. Jesus forgives us all of our sins if we ask, but we still reap what we sow. So why should a Govt. be any different, with certain crimes comes punishment, good if one repents for what they done. But still we must pay for the crime we committed before we repented. Granted some crimes are worse than others therefore a more severe punishment is needed.

[imported_juggernaut28]

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i dont think anyone on this forum (or many americans, maybe a handful) had family that Saddam tortured...so why exactly should those who consider themselves Christians celebrate the death of this man? to justify celebration by pointing to the actions of MUSLIM family members is rather pointless and doesnt hold water in any argument

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The actions of the MUSLIMS with Sadaam leading them, why don't he and the Muslims swallow the same punishment they celebrated over the Americans? They believe all americans are infadels and should die, they killed many in cowardly ways. But Sadaam is sentenced to death by a court of law and all chaos breaks out. Why?? Is Sadaam and the Muslims the only ones who have done right?
If anyone celebrates the death of Sadaam, that is their right. If anyone don't then that is their right. But don't look for much pity for a cowardly man who done what Sadaam done. He is dead, and he lived his life the way he wanted to for many years. I would not want to stand in judgement for what he has done. Do you even care about the ones who have suffered because of this man? Not one time did I see Sadaam ask forgiveness for what he had done or ordered to be done. No Sadaam stood in a court and either defended what he done or denied it.

[gcdevil22]

the only ones who should shed tears over his death would be friends and family members and/or close followers...the only ones who have the right to rejoice over his death are those who were directly (including friends and family members) hurt by his actions

my only point is that we shouldnt rejoice over the killing of any man, no matter how bad the dude was...especially those who go on a certain forum to talk about the preachings of Christ

you said you wouldn't shed a tear, and that may be all you said but you were implying that you didn't care that people were rejoicing over his death, i do not believe you would make such a dull declarative statement if you literally meant what you typed

dont really get where youre comin from sayin i dont care for those who he tortured.. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Saddam did bad things, he was put on trial for those things and denied them...does the fact that he denied them make it ok to rejoice? he was convicted and under Iraqi law was put to death...their country doesn't have a huge Christian following so I cannot put blame on them for the death sentence, that's not my battle...im simply saying, practice what you preach, if youre gonna say "Jesus said this, Jesus said that" then at least hold yourself accountable to those same principles no matter the circumstances...and i am not saying you are the one doing the things i am talking about, this part is more for the general forum