Pelosi

[sup-rbeast]

Not everything Bush did was bad

Tell ya what...you make a list of things Bush did that was good, and I'll make one of the bad things he did, and we'll see which list contains the items that impact us the most in the present day. I don't give a damn what Pelosi, the current congress, Obama, or anyone else has done...it won't stack up to Bush's failures.

[sup-rbeast]

Just a taste of Bush's fine legacy:
1-STARTED the War in Iraq
2-Failure in response to Hurricane Katrina
3-Backed warrantless wire surveillance
4-Amassed record deficits for the country
5-Guantanomo Bay
6-Patriot Act
7-No Child Left Behind
8-CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Act) along with other free trade acts:
US-Chile Free Trade Act
US-Singapore Free Trade Act
US-Bahrain Free Trade Act
9-Withdrew US from the ABM Treaty of 72 (Ballistic Missiles)
10-Stood in the way of Stem Cell Research
11-Vetoed State Children's Health Insurance Program legislation
12-TRIED to veto Water Resources Development Act of 07
13-Failure to protect the environment (KYOTO)
14-Failure to aid SSI
15-Subverted elements of the Constitution
...I can go on and on if ya want more...

[R13]

Its a company in the pacific that is owned by one company in San Fran, I don't think it would be too beneficial. There's no proof of that company making donations to her or any of that sort, so she's not lobbying for them. They make 3.60 and hour, they're a territory who weren't even subject to the 5.15 minimum. Samoan gov employees only make 7.99 according to on of those articles, the company has 5,000 workers and more then doubling the wage of everyone of those workers would probably result in the closing of the company or workers laid off..that's not a good thing when that company employs half of the workforce on the island, esp when they are competing with similar companies who pay their workers 60 cents an hour. If she had made an exemption of a couple of companies that are located in her district...it'd be pretty shatty move by her. But the company of a company that happens to have its headquarters in her district isn't really an issue.

[Counts]

Just a taste of Bush's fine legacy:
1-STARTED the War in Iraq
2-Failure in response to Hurricane Katrina
3-Backed warrantless wire surveillance
4-Amassed record deficits for the country
5-Guantanomo Bay
6-Patriot Act
7-No Child Left Behind
8-CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Act) along with other free trade acts:
US-Chile Free Trade Act
US-Singapore Free Trade Act
US-Bahrain Free Trade Act
9-Withdrew US from the ABM Treaty of 72 (Ballistic Missiles)
10-Stood in the way of Stem Cell Research
11-Vetoed State Children's Health Insurance Program legislation
12-TRIED to veto Water Resources Development Act of 07
13-Failure to protect the environment (KYOTO)
14-Failure to aid SSI
15-Subverted elements of the Constitution
...I can go on and on if ya want more...

In your mind the (D)s can do no wrong and the (R)s can do nothing right I will be the

IMHO #13 is on your list is a + for him I for one dread the day we go down the rabbit hole of the Carbon tradeing (I know it is comming and IT WILL BE VERY BAD for SWVA)

#2 The folks from NO should have evacuated rather than hang around to loot the stores after the storm I Have talked to several folks that works on reparing Powerlines and such and they said that the sence of entitlement was rediculess to the point that if someone gave them a water they would get mad becouse it was not a Coke. I for one think that Katrina was a no win situaton reguardless of who was in charge

#3 and #6 seem to be OK with the (D)s now that Bush is out of power (But like you said it is time for payback now right?)

#8 - I hate all the Free trade agreements too if we had only lisened to Perot back in 92

#14 gos for preatty much every Admin over the last 50 years (And I see thie one doing just about as much)

#4 Is nothing compared to what is comming our way

And the current administration is doing #15 themself



You know I HOPE that everything gets better I really do but all the worlds problems are NOT due to 1 man or even 1 party and the sooner we stop acting like they are and REALLY start tring to fix things we are doomed to repeat the failures of the past again and again

[simple man]

In your mind the (D)s can do no wrong and the (R)s can do nothing right I will be the

IMHO #13 is on your list is a + for him I for one dread the day we go down the rabbit hole of the Carbon tradeing (I know it is comming and IT WILL BE VERY BAD for SWVA)

#2 The folks from NO should have evacuated rather than hang around to loot the stores after the storm I Have talked to several folks that works on reparing Powerlines and such and they said that the sence of entitlement was rediculess to the point that if someone gave them a water they would get mad becouse it was not a Coke. I for one think that Katrina was a no win situaton reguardless of who was in charge

#3 and #6 seem to be OK with the (D)s now that Bush is out of power (But like you said it is time for payback now right?)

#8 - I hate all the Free trade agreements too if we had only lisened to Perot back in 92

#14 gos for preatty much every Admin over the last 50 years (And I see thie one doing just about as much)

#4 Is nothing compared to what is comming our way

And the current administration is doing #15 themself



You know I HOPE that everything gets better I really do but all the worlds problems are NOT due to 1 man or even 1 party and the sooner we stop acting like they are and REALLY start tring to fix things we are doomed to repeat the failures of the past again and again

You might as well face it, the last 8 years have been the worst since RR said, "I'm gonna give my rich pals some tax breaks and if you poor bastards don't starve first, some will trickle down to ya. Get happy. "

[1inStripes]

You might as well face it, the last 8 years have been the worst since RR said, "I'm gonna give my rich pals some tax breaks and if you poor bastards don't starve first, some will trickle down to ya. Get happy. "

My guess would be the worst since the 4 year era when Billy Beer came out.

[simple man]

My guess would be the worst since the 4 year era when Billy Beer came out.

Carter 77-81. WCCO and Paramount both hired thru that period. By the end of 82 WCCO cut 100 and by the end of 85 they cut 500 (over 25% of the work force) as the coal industry ground to a halt along with the rest of the country. Billy Beer would have been good, if you could have bought it. We are about to discover why our grandparents formed unions. RR cried about tax cuts while driving defense spending thru the roof and didn't care what happened to the rest of the country. Don't look for a whole lot of "change" with this guy, but I don't think he can be any worse. It might get worse, as we are on quite a downhill slide.

[simple man]

The worm is turning already-

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration is signaling to Congress that the president could support taxing some employee health benefits, as several influential lawmakers and many economists favor, to help pay for overhauling the health care system.
The proposal is politically problematic for President Obama, however, since it is similar to one he denounced in the presidential campaign as ?the largest middle-class tax increase in history.? Most Americans with insurance get it from their employers, and taxing workers for the benefit is opposed by union leaders and some businesses.

Looks like the small biz doesn't have to worry about raised taxes, the middle class gets it again.NYT: Obama open to taxing health benefits - The New York Times- msnbc.com

[Counts]

Carter 77-81. WCCO and Paramount both hired thru that period. By the end of 82 WCCO cut 100 and by the end of 85 they cut 500 (over 25% of the work force) as the coal industry ground to a halt along with the rest of the country. Billy Beer would have been good, if you could have bought it. We are about to discover why our grandparents formed unions. RR cried about tax cuts while driving defense spending thru the roof and didn't care what happened to the rest of the country. Don't look for a whole lot of "change" with this guy, but I don't think he can be any worse. It might get worse, as we are on quite a downhill slide.

Do you think that the Coal industry will do better under our current Gov? That IMHO is my biggest worry

The worm is turning already-

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration is signaling to Congress that the president could support taxing some employee health benefits, as several influential lawmakers and many economists favor, to help pay for overhauling the health care system.
The proposal is politically problematic for President Obama, however, since it is similar to one he denounced in the presidential campaign as ?the largest middle-class tax increase in history.? Most Americans with insurance get it from their employers, and taxing workers for the benefit is opposed by union leaders and some businesses.

Looks like the small biz doesn't have to worry about raised taxes, the middle class gets it again.NYT: Obama open to taxing health benefits - The New York Times- msnbc.com
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spuds.

I really do not think this has legs wheather it is a good or bad idea with the way he hammered McCain over a very simular plan durring the election it would have the same effect and the 1st Bushes "Read my lips" commentand Obama is to smart to let that happen

[sup-rbeast]

Honestly, I don't think coal will fare any worse....but, it's time to realize that coal isn't viewed as the fuel of the future. And, as residents of a region that depends on coal, it's time to look for something to pin our future on besides coal.