Solutions

[Scott Nocella]

Two sites that have current alternatives to putting any more hate into the world.

Hate is not the answer....it creates more dis-harmony.

Let's get it together and concentrate on the opportunity that has just presented itself.

The world needs help....on an individual level.

You'll find by going through the disclosure site energy sources that currently exist that will take humanity to the next level of evolution.....it's a choice.

Be Safe,

Peace and Light to all,

We cannot afford to repeat histories mistakes of hatred.

http://www.disclosureproject.org/ http://www.N2012.com/ http://worldharmonyunlimited.com/


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[Matt Pacini]

Wow, I hate to be even more sarcastic than my usual self, but did you post the wrong link, or are you off your rocker?
How is (and I quote):
"fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems" going to solve any problems like this terrorist act?

At this point, there is nothing that you and I, Joe Citizen are going to do about this specific problem.

The fact is, they attacked, and we will retaliate, and that's the ugly fact.
Just the way it is, and whether it's right or wrong, if we don't we will get more of the same.

If I come over to your house and beat the crap out of your wife/girlfriend/sister, whatever, are you going to hit me back, or are you going to stand there loving me and being really, really nice to me, until I can't take your niceness anymore, and get guilty enough to stop?

Jeez!



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[Scott Nocella]

Matt,

I wouldn't post anything that I haven't done the research on, and it's ultimately your choice to either accept things or move on....however your rhetoric and reference to violence is uncalled for. This is a time to put good things out there. I have the courage and the conviction to stand by what I post, but I will not waste my breath or time trying to convince someone of positive alternatives....I'll only leave a choice. As far as someone putting violence on my family....well I could have very easily lost my brother the other day....and I still forgive. I will not go into scenarios that could happen....only what did and what is. What did is the result of a collision coarse that has been happening for a long time...the parties involved are all of us on this planet. We are all responsible for putting this right.....What are you doing personally to put this thing right ? Ask yourself that question before you cast out negative thoughts or scenarios to me. I do not respond from anger.....my only motivation is for someone to see beyond all this and see the potential to start fresh with a leadership of peace. Obviously it's not going to come from the whitehouse....so it has to come from the people. I'm one of many that now live in a place where people are now volunteering their personal freedoms and privacy away because they feel that powerless and depressed about the state of things. I feel positive in this moment. Before you knock something thoroughly research it....so go to the disclosure site if you choose and see the sworn testimony of FAA officials top military brass on the existance of black projects.....weigh all of it and then give a qualified opinion....but do not knock other people before you take a good long hard look at yourself....as an artist, if you are true, you come from that place.

Scott

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[Alex]

Matt:

I believe the root cause of the world's disharmony has less to do with religious beliefs and more to do with economic issues.

The more resources we use up from other people's countries, the more anger will be directed our way.

Even if we do pay, history has shown that by greasing a few high-level low-lifes in each country, you pay pennies on the dollar for the resources.

Child Slave labor all over the world is a prime example...

Years earlier it was bribing key people in the Middle East to get access to oil.

Heck, Fidel Castro used to be our bud.

The information age which the U.S. has been instrumental in creating will eventually create a backlash by the rest of the world that sees the U.S., with 5% of the Worlds Population, using 25% of the World's Resources.

If secret energy solutions do exist, they in fact are COMPLETELY RELEVANT to solving discord in the world.

-Alex

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[Matt Pacini]

OK, you have two cars that get 20 & 25 miles per gallon.
I have one car that gets 28 miles per gallon, and you're mister energy conserver?Might I remind you that how much gas you use is not the only yardstick of energy use?
How much energy was used to build your TWO cars, as opposed to my ONE car? To build it, ship it, etc.?

And besides, who cares how much energy we use?
You say this like it's a fact, that that makes us evil, and it's obviously a bad thing.

Is energy some "life-force" that is going to dry up, and we'll all die?
If oil runs out, then we'll figure something else out. Big deal, so all the oil is all gone. Boo hoo.

Is my breathing air going to use it all up?
When I eat a salad, am I evil, because I'm "using up" the lettuce?
Jeez.

And to this quote:
"Who's fault is the lower standard of life in other parts of the world?"

I'll tell you who is to blame, THEY ARE for continuing to follow socialist political and economic systems that don't work, instead of following capitalism. That's the only reason the west has better lifestyles than they do.

I think you have to remember, that most of these poor countries have exactly the same living conditions that they have for hundreds, and even thousands of years, or better.

The fact that WHEN COMPARED TO US, they are poor, is not any evidence that it is in any way our fault, but that they have not followed the same economic model we have, to elevate ourselves using a system that works.

Before capitalism, those living in Europe and in the American colonies lived in similar poverty, basic food and shelter existances, as those in the rest of the world.

So these people are not our victims, because they're still living like they have in the past, unless of course, you're one of those wacko's that think we should just send cash to them for nothing in return, because God forbid we actually demand anything back for the money, like products that we buy from them.
That would be so unfair to actually expect them to work, to make something we want to buy. That would be horrible!

Matt Pacini


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[Alex]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt Pacini:
OK, you have two cars that get 20 & 25 miles per gallon.

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First of all, I said 22 & 25 mile per gallon...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt Pacini:

I have one car that gets 28 miles per gallon, and you're mister energy conserver?

Might I remind you that how much gas you use is not the only yardstick of energy use?
How much energy was used to build your TWO cars, as opposed to my ONE car? To build it, ship it, etc.?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So did you understand that one car has been in our family for 23 years, the other one for 13 years....how old is your car?

And the only reason the cars get in the mid 20's for gas mileage is because they are so old, they used to get in the mid 30's when new....and yet, the interior space to gas mileage per gallon is still better than 95% of new cars on the road.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt Pacini:

And besides, who cares how much energy we use?
You say this like it's a fact, that that makes us evil, and it's obviously a bad thing.
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Yes, I'd say 5% of the population using 25% of the world resources is a bad thing.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt Pacini:

And to this quote:
"Who's fault is the lower standard of life in other parts of the world?"

I'll tell you who is to blame, THEY ARE for continuing to follow socialist political and economic systems that don't work, instead of following capitalism. That's the only reason the west has better lifestyles than they do.

I think you have to remember, that most of these poor countries have exactly the same living conditions that they have for hundreds, and even thousands of years, or better.

The fact that WHEN COMPARED TO US, they are poor, is not any evidence that it is in any way our fault, but that they have not followed the same economic model we have, to elevate ourselves using a system that works.

Before capitalism, those living in Europe and in the American colonies lived in similar poverty, basic food and shelter existances, as those in the rest of the world.

So these people are not our victims, because they're still living like they have in the past, unless of course, you're one of those wacko's that think we should just send cash to them for nothing in return, because God forbid we actually demand anything back for the money, like products that we buy from them.
That would be so unfair to actually expect them to work, to make something we want to buy. That would be horrible!

Matt Pacini

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No Matt, as I said in my previous post, it is real easy to bribe a few officials from a less industrialized nation which then gives us access to their resources for pennies on the dollar...

Child labor laws are being abused all over the world to put profits into Corporate America.

-Alex


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[eddie]

Here, here, Alex.



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[Scott Nocella]

Thank you Alex for setting the record straight....It's time for a change in attitude on an individual level in order for there to be changes on a global level. There are things that can be changed right now in the country....and could have been changed over 25 years ago to reduce if not eliminate the dependence on fossil fuels....we are all responsible....there is no more blame...just choice.

Scott

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[8th Man]

I don't want to sound for a moment like I support children working in factories to make products for the U.S. AND other countries as well, because children everywhere diserve better, obiously. I would say though that if these kids did not work in these places, they would not be magically placed in school. They unfortunately would most likely be even worse off in the crap holes they were unlucky enough to be born in. I wish the world were different. I am optimistic about the future and pray for freedom for all oppressed. I think the western world cares more about those kids than thier own governments do. I know it sounds terrible but a factory job may actually be a better situation than starving in the street 'till democracy reigns in those foresaken places.

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[Scottness]

Scott - I agree totally with you - hear hear - and you Alex.......I think the solution lay with each individual because ultimately there are no countries/ethnicities - just individuals - and I don't know where I heard it but the saying "Once you truly love yourself you won't feel need to change others" rings so true right now - because what you fear in others you just fear in yourself - and Matt I know you've helped me alot with my film and I really appreciate that - but what are you afraid of - love? death? - because I think there's apart of everyone that goes beyond all fears of those things.......and you may think this is all wishy washy rubbish - but consider this, something someone else once said to me, "It's only those with the skills to live together who are ultimately going to survive" - and there's no way you can handle or deal constructively with another person until you can do that with yourself first - because that's where the way you approach others comes from -- so everyone look to your own heart - and really you can only be honest yourself - that's all I think life is about

Scot McPhie

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