Interesting stuff -- if I were going for the Rolands, I would certainly want to talk to them a lot before putting out $5500!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No. It's analogue.Originally posted by JPtheDrummer:
Does DDRUM has the latency problems too?
Interesting stuff -- if I were going for the Rolands, I would certainly want to talk to them a lot before putting out $5500!
I use a Roland SPD-S pad to my left at ALL my gigs. That is a KILLER unit. I have a pedal triggered into it too. It's like the SPD pads but it has 9 pads and sampler built in. It's a pretty powerful unit and very easy to use. I use it for various percussion sounds, samples (Family guy, simpsons, South park) drum loops and I play full grooves on it utilizing the pedal. (Dance/House type stuff) I also got a V Drum set for christmas this year. It's the V-Tour (TD6S). Awesome kit. I added an extra cymbal to it also. I've used it live twice. Once completly electronic and once with live cymbals. With live cymbals it was much better. The drums sounds amazing in the PA. Absolute thunder..... the only problem I had with the whole thing is the case of tennis elbow i had the next day in my right arm. Bashing on it for 3 hours at a clip will take it's toll. I didn't experience the latency problems that other people did though. I dig the electronics. I say give em a try.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The TD6 doesn't do all that cycle-sapping COSM, so it has lower latency.Originally posted by mAnOfMaNyKiTs:
I also got a V Drum set ... I didn't experience the latency problems that other people did though.
I did it for several years and finally gave it up. At first I had triggers on everything and used aux pads for various perc sounds etc. I first dropped triggering toms as it was just too messy even using shell mount triggers. Eventually I got rid of all of it in favor of actual real percussion on the kit. It responds the way I want it to and I rather enjoy the organic thing.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the heck out of the electronics. It did what I needed it to do during its time but the monetary and time investment eventually wore me down, not to mention the set up and dealing with those Murphy's Law things inherent in using pads, triggers, cables, modules, trigger to midi devices, amps etc. We also streamlined our PA which necessitated my having to submix my acoustic kit and that meant carrying even more stuff. I was also using gear from the dark ages (an original DTX with ddrum and pintech triggers and the old pintech pads) and I just couldn't justify the expenditure for upgraded gear.
In my opinion I think all drummers should at least dabble in electronics somewhat as it puts a whole new perspective on the sonic pallete. And there is definitely no faking it when playing these things. It's great for getting your playing more precise and getting your hands and feet playing evenly. And, most of all it's just plain fun to be able to have a vast array of sounds literally at your fingertips.
I own a TD 20 and really enjoy being able to switch kits for different types of music, I also find the feel a little different but so is a practice pad, I would like to comment on the latency issue, I did the same test that Andy V did (I used Cubase SX) and came to a very different conclusion. I wear Sensaphonics IEM's so the sound from the module takes about 4ms to get to my ears, I found that placing one microphone next to my head and one microphone 1" from the snare skin (I also have a Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute Nouveau kit) gave a 3ms difference. So there is a 3ms delay with A's. If you are monitoring the Vdrums from a floor wedge, the latency could be an issue, (could be 8 or 9ms - 4ms for the module and 4 or 5 ms for the sound to travel from the wedge to your ears) but I think that using IEM?s is the only way to go if you want great sonic performance and solid hearing protection.
John
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