yes.....
You asked a nerdy question, you get a nerdy answer
although it is not "TRULY" a completely random number, to the user, for most intense purposes, it will be random enough for most every day usage...
Is I possble for a computer to pick a RANDOM number?
yes.....
You asked a nerdy question, you get a nerdy answer
although it is not "TRULY" a completely random number, to the user, for most intense purposes, it will be random enough for most every day usage...
but if a computer can only deliver what it is asked to, basically stopping on a given place "set" by parameters put in by the end user then I dis-agree.
isn't it... Ask a nerd a question you get a nerd answer
You can write a JavaScript program to pick a random number. I did it last semester [img]redface.gif[/img]
**** shakes head***
if someone put 3 items in a box, knowing what all the items were and where they were placed in the box and their sizes, and then cut a hole in the box so only 1 time was small enuf for it to fall out... would it then be random which one came out?
OK now put that back into the form of the pc question... since pcs work on an internal clock set by us (which is not random what time we pick , and since it will stop at a given TIME on the pc since that is its only reference in trying to be random... therefor it cant be random can it?
Plus since all programs are based on some form of C, given any program that generates random numbers if you monitored all the numbers long enough you could go back and reverse engineer it and figure out what base number they used to start the base calulation from. Hence again it couldnt be a random number. hmmmmmmmmm
<font color="#ffffff" size="1">[ September 13, 2003 02:50 PM: Message edited by: Cyalaytr ]</font>
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">that maybe....but it was not truly random....Originally posted by xxmoon stomperxx:
You can write a JavaScript program to pick a random number. I did it last semester [img]redface.gif[/img]
cya...no, that is not random, it would be random when it fell out, not that it fell out, because it was already predetermined to only let one block fall out....however, if the hole was big enough for all of them to fall out, and the blocks were thrown in the box without considering placement, and then the box was rotated in a way that was not pre determined to make any of the blocks fall out....then it would then be random....
i agree with gravy train... nothing is truly random
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">First, I dont' believe all programs are based on some form of C...seeing as how it was no where near one of the first programming languages, and languages such as Lisp have nothing to do with C...you are wrong...very very wrong in that aspect.Originally posted by Cyalaytr:
Plus since all programs are based on some form of C, given any program that generates random numbers if you monitored all the numbers long enough you could go back and reverse engineer it and figure out what base number they used to start the base calulation from. Hence again it couldnt be a random number.
Second, apparently you didn't read that article, if i remember correctly, the individuals in that thread, did just that and determined the base calculation used to generate the "random" number. like i said earlier, it may not be "truly random" but it is random enough for anything that an average (and usually above average) program would ever need.
BAHH I scoff. I get my info and arguement facts directly from a network administrator and programmer for the past 20 yrs. Yours come from what a new article? Anyhow facts asside... then how come no lotto is ever driven off any RANDOM NUMBER MAKING MACHINE?
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