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    Question Demagnetising

    Do all bass speakers need to be demagnetised after a certain time period?
    My 19's were built in 1978 & I can't really hear any decrease in bottom end performance....or have I just got used to the sound?

    They have only ever been used in a domestic situation & not subject to any prolonged high power usage.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Demagnetising

    Hi John

    AFAIK if yours are ferrites(8Cs) then they should hold charge no problem.

    If Alnico(8Bs), then maybe they have lost some of their charge, but since you haven't driven them hard, probably not.

    Easiest way is to compare with a newly charged unit.

    Anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnarc View Post
    Hi John

    AFAIK if yours are ferrites(8Cs) then they should hold charge no problem.

    If Alnico(8Bs), then maybe they have lost some of their charge, but since you haven't driven them hard, probably not.

    Easiest way is to compare with a newly charged unit.

    Anthony
    Hi Anthony,
    Yes, they are 8B's....so Alnico. Does driving them hard make them lose their charge?
    Where do you get another new 8B to compare to??????

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    Re: Demagnetising

    Hi John

    Alnico can exhibit decreased magnetic charge if they are pushed hard for extended periods of time.

    I'd doubt yours would have been subject to high power levels, we're talking extended usage in say a cinema environment when the A7 is too small, or in PA/Rock situations at pubs.

    None of my 8Bs are newly recharged, in fact they need charging, so I can't lend you one. By the sounds of things, your M19s are well and truly keeping up with the La Scala so maybe they are fine??

    CPC Productions out at Ipswich - Murray Keidge, he may have one you could compare with, or may be able to measure the gauss/charge of the magnet.

    Cheers
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    Smile Re: Demagnetising

    Anthony,

    I would say that the bottom end on the 19's, after the recap, is superior to the LS now. More tuneful & more accurate...& certainly plenty of oomph.
    From this I would say that they are OK.

    It's really handy to have another set of speakers to compare against.

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    Re: Demagnetising

    Quote Originally Posted by J Henry
    Do all bass speakers need to be demagnetised after a certain time period?
    My 19's were built in 1978 & I can't really hear any decrease in bottom end performance....or have I just got used to the sound?
    - ( FWIW ), the proper term here is "re-magnetizing" .
    - Demagnetise ( or demagnetize ) , means ; to "lose magnetic charge" .


    - Anyways, to answer your question, one first notices a loss of efficiency in the mid-band which actually has the effect of making the bass frequencies a bit more pronounced ( by comparison ) . FWIW, a lot of people may like this change of bass to mid re-balance .

    - Additionally, I'd be somewhat cautious about having your alnico woofers remagged . Panos 416-8A dilemma should serve as a cautionary tale about what goes wrong when a tech re-mags alnico if the machine is set to the wrong polarity .

    - As a "due-diligence" self check, I'd recommend that one should first verify ( with a 9 volt battery ) the polarity of ones' woofers before handing them over for re-magnetising . If they come back with the polarity switched then ( at least ) you have a good negotiating start point ( to remedy the situation, as was Panos case ) .

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    Re: Demagnetising

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl K View Post
    - ( FWIW )
    - As a "due-diligence" self check, I'd recommend that one should first verify ( with a 9 volt battery )
    I always used a AA or other 1.5V. Too scared to use a 9V, is that unfounded?
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    Re: Demagnetising

    9V is OK, and a lot easier to see! I don't use it on tweeters.

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    Re: Demagnetising

    I don't use any battery on tweeters, I'm just too chicken and on woofers, the things seem to jump out of the basket with a 1.5V hence my fear of a 9V. I was just wondering in case I'm somewhere and have this incredible urge to zap my drivers with a battery. Earl does it but I am just being cautious, that's all.

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    Re: Demagnetising

    - I only use the battery method for cone drivers ( woofers ) / never on compression drivers.

    - For compression drivers I use something like the following ;

    CRICKETm

    - My checker is actually an older version of LA Audios' PC90 ;

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