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    Re: Demagnetising

    Quote Originally Posted by J Henry
    Do all bass speakers need to be demagnetised after a certain time period?
    My 19's were built in 1978 & I can't really hear any decrease in bottom end performance....or have I just got used to the sound?
    - ( FWIW ), the proper term here is "re-magnetizing" .
    - Demagnetise ( or demagnetize ) , means ; to "lose magnetic charge" .


    - Anyways, to answer your question, one first notices a loss of efficiency in the mid-band which actually has the effect of making the bass frequencies a bit more pronounced ( by comparison ) . FWIW, a lot of people may like this change of bass to mid re-balance .

    - Additionally, I'd be somewhat cautious about having your alnico woofers remagged . Panos 416-8A dilemma should serve as a cautionary tale about what goes wrong when a tech re-mags alnico if the machine is set to the wrong polarity .

    - As a "due-diligence" self check, I'd recommend that one should first verify ( with a 9 volt battery ) the polarity of ones' woofers before handing them over for re-magnetising . If they come back with the polarity switched then ( at least ) you have a good negotiating start point ( to remedy the situation, as was Panos case ) .

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    Re: Demagnetising

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl K View Post
    - ( FWIW )
    - As a "due-diligence" self check, I'd recommend that one should first verify ( with a 9 volt battery )
    I always used a AA or other 1.5V. Too scared to use a 9V, is that unfounded?
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    Re: Demagnetising

    9V is OK, and a lot easier to see! I don't use it on tweeters.

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    Re: Demagnetising

    I don't use any battery on tweeters, I'm just too chicken and on woofers, the things seem to jump out of the basket with a 1.5V hence my fear of a 9V. I was just wondering in case I'm somewhere and have this incredible urge to zap my drivers with a battery. Earl does it but I am just being cautious, that's all.

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    Re: Demagnetising

    - I only use the battery method for cone drivers ( woofers ) / never on compression drivers.

    - For compression drivers I use something like the following ;

    CRICKETm

    - My checker is actually an older version of LA Audios' PC90 ;

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    Re: Demagnetising

    Lets say we're going to apply 1 Watt of power to a speaker with a DC resistance of 8 Ohms.

    According to a variation of the power formula:

    V = square root (PR)

    where

    V is Voltage
    P is power in Watts
    R is DC resistance in Ohms

    we have

    V = square root (1 x 8)
    V = 2.8 Volts

    As another check let's say we apply a 9 Volt battery to an 8 Ohm speaker where:

    P = V^2 / R

    we have

    P = 9^2 / 8
    P = 10.125 Watts

    Is 10 Watts too much? Personally, I wouldn't do it to a tweeter but I'm fine testing a woofer like that.

    I would also make just a momentary connection, only enough to verify cone movement and then quickly disconnect.
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    Re: Demagnetising

    Quote Originally Posted by Altec19 View Post
    I would also make just a momentary connection, only enough to verify cone movement and then quickly disconnect.
    I think that's the key. Remember you are running DC to it so you're not getting any back and forth to assist in the cooling. Also I think you have to take into account the available current available from the battery no?
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    Re: Demagnetising

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl K View Post
    - ( FWIW ), the proper term here is "re-magnetizing" .
    - Demagnetise ( or demagnetize ) , means ; to "lose magnetic charge" .


    - Anyways, to answer your question, one first notices a loss of efficiency in the mid-band which actually has the effect of making the bass frequencies a bit more pronounced ( by comparison ) . FWIW, a lot of people may like this change of bass to mid re-balance .

    - Additionally, I'd be somewhat cautious about having your alnico woofers remagged . Panos 416-8A dilemma should serve as a cautionary tale about what goes wrong when a tech re-mags alnico if the machine is set to the wrong polarity .

    - As a "due-diligence" self check, I'd recommend that one should first verify ( with a 9 volt battery ) the polarity of ones' woofers before handing them over for re-magnetising . If they come back with the polarity switched then ( at least ) you have a good negotiating start point ( to remedy the situation, as was Panos case ) .

    <> cheers
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